LEBANON AND IRAQ- They explained to us what they want, how they will fight America and Israel, and how they will destroy Zionism and American Imperialism! They admitted that they fear Massad and the Israeli agents who infiltrated many Arab and Muslim countries and particularly Turkey, Syria and Lebanon. They mock the CIA and their “powerless and idiot” agents in the Near East. It was neither safe nor easy to interview Ahmad A., Mahmoud S. and Abou Hussein who are known to their compatriots as “honorable” men and “freedom fighters” and most certainly portrayed by westerners as bloody killers and terrorists.  Ahmad belongs to "Ansar Al'Arab". Previously, he was a militia fighter from "Al Mourabitoun" and "Al Hizboul' Nasiri " (Lebanese Muslim party of the followers of Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, created in early 70s by Najah Wakeem, a Christian Orthodox lawyer who defeated the very powerful Christian Orthodox Representative Nasim Majdalani of the District of “Mazraa” Beirut, in the 1970 Lebanon’s parliament elections.  The half-dormant “Nasiri” party is based in the regions of Mazraa, Mousaytbeh,  Corniche Al-Mazraa, Al Barbir and Bastah in Lebanon. Ahmad maintains two residences in Lebanon and Syria. He studied at "Al Makased" high school located near “Al Barbir Hospital” in Beirut. He earned a law degree from "Ain Shams" University in Egypt. He taught briefly at an Arab school "Al Ma'had Al Arabi" (Arab Lyceum) in Bastah, Beirut. Also, he is a published author and a poet. He assured us that he has never killed an American or a Jew, but he will not hesitate a second to cut an American's throat and blow up the head of George Bush in pieces if he could.   

Mahmoud is an active member of "Al Tawheed", referred to in the United States as a very dangerous terrorist organization; a sub-organization of Al Qaeda. Previously, Mahmoud was a member of "Al Ikwan Al Mouslimin" (The Muslim Brothers or The Muslim Brotherhood) based in Cairo, Egypt. Mahmoud told us that "AL MOUKHABARAT (Police or Secret Service) of the late Anwar Al Sadat, former president of Egypt tortured him with electrical wires and gadgets. He currently lives in Iraq. He holds an engineering degree from the American University in Cairo. Previously, he worked as a motion pictures set designer for famous Egyptian stars like Ahmad Ramzi, Choukri Sarhan,  Hind Salameh and Berlinti Abdel Hamid.

Photo: Hamas training camp.

"I never killed an American before, but I will kill Bush "Ibn Al Kalb" (Son of a dog) in a second.  Abou Hussein is a "strategic operator" from "Hizboul 'lah" (The Party of Allah: The Party Of God). Previously, he rendered his services to the Syrian Al Baa'th party in 1976; a Shiite-Alaouit party which was under the control of the late Hafez Al Asaad of Syria, the father of the current president of Syria.  He served the Iraqi Al Baa’th party in 1978 which was under the direct control of Saddam Hussein. He frequently meets with "brothers" and very active anti-Israel “suicide missionaries” in Iran, Syria and United Arab Emirates.  He holds a degree in political sciences from the "Arab University" of Beirut, located in a predominant Muslim area, nearby the Palestinian camp of Sabra. His two brothers were murdered by Bashir Al Jemayel’s Christian militia "Al Kataeb" during their assault on the Palestinian camps of "Sabra" and “Tal Zaatar”. He admits that he killed many Jews who lived in “Wadi Abou Jmil” in Beirut and Christian Lebanese during 1958 civil war/revolt against Lebanon’s former Christian President Camille Chamoun, and during the 15 year civil war in Lebanon which started in 1975 in the region of  “Ain El Remanneh” bordering  the district of  “Shiah” in Beirut. He too, denied having killed Americans but "Now I am fed up with Bush, our honor has been tarnished by Bush and I am willing to do anything and everything in my powers to kill every Jew and American I see anywhere, any time." Abou Hussein told us.

In brief, the trio's motto and objectives are to destroy Zionism, free Palestine from all Jews, and keep America out of the Middle and Near East. Strangely enough, those three men are religious and devoted fathers.  One of them is already a grandfather. They believe in the last judgment, in “Jannah and Al Nar” (Paradise and hell), in traditional Islamic family values, in Mohammad as the only "Rassoul" (Messenger of God). They revere Mary as "Sittina Maryam" (Meaning: Our Lady Mary) because she was highly respected and honored in Al Quran in a lengthy chapter called "SOURAT MARYAM". They believe that Jesus is not the son of God but "Min Rouh' Allah", meaning from the breath or soul of God. They call Jesus "Issa" as epistemologically derived from “Yashou”. They believe in Moses and the prophets of Israel because the Prophet Mohammad said so in his “Al Hadith Al Sharif”, meaning the speeches and dialogues of Mohammad with his followers and Ulemas. In fact, the Quran recognized Jews and Christians as “Min Ahl Al Kitab”, meaning “The People of the Books, or the “People of the Sacred Book.” Abou Hussein, Mahmood and Ahmad love American hamburger, Coca Cola, Levi’s blue jeans, Madonna, Britney Spears, the movies of Humphrey Bogart, Robert Taylor, John Wayne, Elizabeth Taylor, Burt Lancaster and Jack Palance. The greatest Mohammad Ali is their favorite hero because he used to hit his foes and win with "KABDAT AL ISLAM" meaning:  The champion who hits and wins with the "The fist of Islam" And yes, if they have the opportunity to live and work in Israel or the United States, they will do it in a heart beat!

LEADERS OF TERRORISM WHO HIT THE WORLD BY THE NAME OF ISLAM

Photos from L to R: #1. Sheik Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Hizboul’ lah political leader. #2. Sheik Kassem Naim, Nasrallah's deputy as political leader of Lebanese Hizbou’ lah. #3. Sheik Mohammad Hussein Fedlallah, Hizboul’ lah religious leader.

LANDING IN BEIRUT

Photo:  A Muslim day time butcher and night-volunteer freedom fighter at Sabra (Remnant of Fateh Palestinian Camp) in the Muslim section of Beirut.

We landed in Beirut International Airport, known also as “Khalde” airport. Previous arrangements were made to receive us at the airport and to drive us to our hotel located in the area of “Al Manarah” facing the beautiful Mediterranean sea. Two gentlemen impeccably dressed were waiting for us, as well as a high ranking security officer from the "Al Amn Al Am "(National Security Directorate). One of the gentlemen reassured us that shortly we will be meeting with Mahmood and his friends. The meeting was scheduled for early evening at a cafe located in the region of “Ras Beirut” near “Sakyet Al Janzeer”, not far away for our hotel. Three hours later, the same two gentlemen who met us at the airport picked us up in a Mercedes sedan from our hotel and drove us directly to a designated cafe which served Lebanese food, American hamburger, French fries and believe it or not American milk shake and New York’s style bagels. We did not know what to expect, who to expect to see and who will be attending our interview. But so far so good. Everything appeared to be smooth and safe. The side-walk cafe was packed. One could not ignore the elegance of the Lebanese women who were drinking, chatting, making jokes and laughing loudly. Ismael, one of our escorts directed us to a table where evidently Mahmood and his friends were seated. A 6 foot tall man, elegantly dressed, wearing a Christian Dior's tie and expensive crocodile shoes stood up, smiled to us, warmly welcomed us and greeted us in English and Arabic: "Welcome, welcome, Ya Ahlan  Wa Sahlan", meaning in Arabic: You are most welcome. And this elegantly dressed up man was nobody else than Mahmood himself. He introduced us to his friends who were equally well-dressed and kept on repeating "Welcome to Beirut, welcome to Beirut." We did feel some warmth and sincerity in the way he received us and more particularly in the manner he displayed civility and courteous demeanor toward two western ladies. Yet, we remained very cautious and alert all the time.Without asking us what we wish to order, to drink or to eat, Mahmood took the liberty to order a fleet of dishes of all sizes and shapes of Lebanese favorite national specialties and appetizers, such as “Warak Bi Arich”  (Grape leaves),  “Lisanat” (Lamb tongues),  “Baba Ghanouj” (Eggplant mousse), “Mejaddara Msafayeh” (Lentil mousse or salad), etc.  It was a feast to the eyes. We started to count how many dishes were brought up, and if we were not mistaken, no less than 40 dishes were already on the table. It was really something unique. However, no hard alcohol was served. We ordered two bottles of Perrier. Mahmood and his friends, to our great astonishment, ordered Amstel beer. We thought that Muslims do not drink in public, little did we know. And they drank like a fish!  Khaled one of the gentlemen sitting at our table assured us that "Bon Viveurs Muslims drink as much as Jews and Christians do."  Mahmood took the initiative to tell us that he is ready for the interview. And the interview began, verbatim and unedited; meaning printed as is, without editing or correcting grammatical or linguistic errors.

WHAT DO THE TERRORISTS THINK OF THE CIA?

MAHMOUD: “THE CIA IS DEAD IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE CIA IS A JOKE!”                                                          

AHMAD: “THE ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE IS BETTER THAN THE CIA.”

Q: What do you think of the CIA? Do you fear the CIA?   Mahmood: "Yahni" (Meaning: I mean), the CIA today is nothing, very weak. The CIA was strong in the Middle East some 25 years ago. Around 1975, the CIA was finished in Lebanon, in Syria, in Iraq and in many Arab countries. Before 1975, they were probably everywhere. But after 1975, the CIA became "nothing". But, but, I know they are still in Egypt, Cyprus, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Many of them are now in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, a sizable number in Pakistan, India and Afghanistan. Actually, we know who they are and what they are doing. And we know what we should do with them.   Q: What do you mean?   Mahmood: I mean, we know how to get them "like birds".   Q: What do you mean like birds? Mahmood: I mean it is easy to shoot them like we shoot small birds.   Q: Do you fear the CIA?         Ahmad: I fear only Allah. The CIA is a joke. The Israelis are better than the CIA. Q: What do you mean by a joke?  Ahmad: For almost 20 years, the CIA tried to recruit Arab people to spy on the Palestinians, Abou Ammar (Nick name of Yasser Arafat), Egyptian government, the Saudi Royal family, Syria, Lebanon and Israel itself. Even, they sent spies to Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah in the Arab Gulf. We know the CIA have spies in Oman, Jordan and Turkey. We know also that the CIA is very active in Istanbul, Saudi Arabia, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq. But, they could not penetrate Lebanon, Syria and Gaza. Before 1958, the CIA did well. After 1958, the CIA lost many agents in the Middle East, including Cyprus, Malta and Greece. The Americans thought that they can bribe Arab people. They were wrong. Of course, America has collaborators and traitors from several Arab countries. But those traitors have no access to vital information. They are stooges. We know who they are. We have a complete list of their names. They are either members of former Arab regimes, overthrown governments, boring professors at American universities, journalists at Al Hourra television station, this is another Bush’s administration joke, or advisors at the Heritage Foundation, Council of Foreign Affairs, and contributors to television stations in America, such as Fox News. And they know nothing. So you see, the CIA when it failed to penetrate our groups, the CIA had no choice but to listen to “ARAB TRAITORS AND OUTSIDERS” who live in America. So, what the CIA got from them? Nothing! Wrong information, false reports and false intelligence.  You see, those Arabs who became American citizens did not return to their countries for many many years. So, realistically, they know nothing about our operations. They are outsiders and we do not trust them.  So we do not share information with them. The Israelis know that.  But the Americans don’t, because they are ignorant and arrogant.  Q: And how about the Israeli intelligence?   Ahmad: They are much better. At least, they know what they are doing. They know what to do.  Q: Do what? Why the Israelis are better than the Americans?  Mahmood: Mossad operates quite differently from the CIA. They are more effective despite their relatively limited resources and means. I will give you some examples:

WHAT THE ARABS REALLY WANT FROM THE UNITED STATES AND PRESIDENT BUSH?

THE INTERVIEW

Photo:  A Muslim day time butcher and night-volunteer freedom fighter at Sabra (Remnant of Fateh Palestinian Camp) in the Muslim section of Beirut.

Peggy: What it would take to make peace between the Fundamentalist Muslims and the United States? Mahmood: First, let me tell you something. There is no such thing as Fundamentalist Muslims. This is a fabrication by Bush and the Americans. Either you are Muslim or you are not. I am a Muslim and I don't understand what do you mean by Fundamentalist Muslims. If you mean they are terrorists, you will be making a big mistake. We are freedom fighters and we are fighting for our countries. I read a lot about early American wars and battles against the Indians. I mean the American Indian tribes, about David Crocket and the Alamo. Would you call the Americans who were with David Crocket fighting the Mexicans, would you call them Fundamentalists and terrorists because they were defending their lands? No! Would you call them Fundamentalist Christians? No! I know. We, the Arabs, the Muslims we are doing the same thing. We are defending our lands against Israel and America who wants to change our way of live, our political system and create a more powerful Israeli state in the Middle East. We do not hate the American people. We only hate Bush and the first Bush too.

Photo: A 4 year Muslim child (Arab boy of a Pakistani ethnic background)  with a revolver in a Muslim stronghold training center, where Islamic ideologies, terrorism tactics and anti-Israel doctrines are taught and where militia training is provided 7 days a week.

 Madam Peggy. Look, what we want is very simple...please madam Peggy and you too madam (talking to Ruth), please eat something, this is delicious...you will not find this in America... OKKAY (with a strong accent), we will make peace with America and Bush or any American president,  if America will do this:

Number one (Counting on his fingers): We want America out of our lands. Out of Iraq, out of Bahrain, out of Kuwait and out of Saudi Arabia. We will stay friends with the Americans, we will do business with the Americans, we will do import and export and trade with the Americans but, the American forces must leave immediately. Don't misunderstand me, I did not say civilian Americans. Civilian Americans are welcome to stay and work here, as long as they are not spies and working for the CIA. You understand? We have no problem with the American people. We have problems with Bush people.  Number two: America must stop helping Israel. I mean, America should cease to interfere in the Palestinian affairs. Palestinians have the right to a homeland.

MUSLIM FANATICS WOULD NOT HESITATE TO DROP DIRTY BOMBS ON WASHINGTON, NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA. THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM IN THE UNITED STATES, CLAIM FUNDAMENTALISTS.

Ahmad (Interrupting): Yes, yes, of course. You see, America is interfering in our lives. Why America is siding with the Israelis? Because Jews are powerful in America. Even, the diplomats, the officials and the advisors, America sent to Iraq to temporarily govern Iraq were Jews. And listen to this, it is getting worse. The people who were entrusted by America to write the "Dastour" (Constitution) of Iraq were Jews. Many American ministers of Defense were Jews. Twelve Jewish companies got billion of Dollar contracts to rebuild Iraq!   Abou Hussein (Interrupting): All our problems come from the United States. America interferes in Palestine. America interferes in Iraq. America now is interfering in Syria, Libya, Korea and Iran. And how about Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan? Americans are everywhere. They want to rule the world. I will tell you something. If the United States will continue to do this, the only way to stop it is to "throw" atomic bombs on Washington, New York, California and big American cities.  Ruth: Do you mean that? Are you telling me that Arabs or Muslims have nuclear weapons? An atomic bomb? Ahmad: Of course, we have nuclear weapons and many atomic bombs.  Peggy: Who has atomic bombs? Bin Laden?  Where are those atomic bombs?   Ahmad: You will be amazed if I tell you. Ruth: Tell us. Frankly, I do not believe you!  Ahmad: Okkay! This is what you think! They are not very big atomic bombs but strong enough to kill millions and millions of Americans and Jews. We have engineers and scientists from Pakistan, Malaysia, Korea and Indonesia. Also we have very bright students who graduated from American universities in America and abroad.  They know how to make atomic bombs. Many of them are already in America. As a last resource, we will "detonate" the bombs.       Peggy: The Arabs have atomic bombs in the United States?! Where?  Abou Hussein: Do you think we are going to tell you? Do you think I am going to tell you. What do you think I am a donkey?  Ruth: Who made those bombs?     Abou Hussein: They were made in Pakistan, Korea and Indonesia. Other bombs were made in Iran. Peggy: So, Iran has a nuclear weapons program? Ahmad: Of course.  Ruth: Since when?    Abou Hussein: Since 1992.  Peggy: How can you be so sure? Saddam Hussein claimed to have nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction, and yet, no weapons or chemical arsenals were ever found in Iraq.  Iranians could claim the same thing?

THE ORIGINAL CHOSEN TARGETS DID NOT INCLUDE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!?

Peggy: Who planned the attack on the World Trade Center in New York? Was it Al Qaeda? Bin Laden himself? Abou Hussein: More than 3 organizations worked on the attack. Al Qaeda had the money to finance the mission. But, the "Shabab" (Men power) came from everywhere, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Morocco, Yemen, Holland, Spain, England and from everywhere. They were chosen from our best training camps in the Middle East, Europe and America.  Ruth: You have training camps in the United States?   Ahmad: Of course, we have. And what you have seen is nothing. Wait and see. More attacks are coming. Peggy: You are going to attack the United States? What targets do you have in mind? When are you going to attack?  Ahmad: We don't know. Nobody knows. Only those who were selected for very particular and specific  missions would know about it. And, I am sure, they will be briefed about the mission, only 24 hours before it happens. Anyway, all instructions are usually sent to our men from outside the United States.   Peggy: Did you know about the attack on the World Trade Center? Did you have any previous knowledge of the attack?  Ahmad: I did not. I don't think anybody knew.  Peggy: How about you, Mr. Abou Hussein? Did you know? Abou Hussein: No, I did not know. No body knew up front, not even those who attacked New York. It is true, the plan of attack was already planned and scheduled in Amsterdam, Madrid and Germany but, full details and instructions were not given to our people. They had to wait for further guidelines and final instructions to be given to them in New York and Miami.       Ruth: So how and when they knew. They must have known all the details and received prior instructions to carry on and execute their mission? Don't you think they had to prepare themselves, make arrangements, contact each other....Certainly they needed enough time to highjack the airplanes, watch the airports, rent cars, arrange transportations, etc.. They had to know about the attack, the target, the time...They had to get ready. They had to prepare themselves?

THE ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES WERE PLANNED IN HOLLAND AND GERMANY.

Peggy: Where were the hijackers  at the time of the attack on the World trade Center? Ahmad: They were instructed to wait in New York. The instructions and orders came three days before the attacks. Some of the brothers were still in London, somewhere in Europe and outside New York. Yes, they needed time to travel to New York. So, let's say 3 days. No more than that. Peggy: So, they came from everywhere? Where did they meet first? Did they meet in New York first, or in Europe. Abou Hussein: It does not matter where and when they met each other, because they did not know what was the whole plan. Besides, at the very beginning, each person operated independently. This is how usually we operate. I think only one person knew about everything because he had to take care of the logistics and expenses.  Ruth: Who was this person? Abou Hussein: Only Allah knows! You see, New York was not the first choice. Our men had other ideas. We did not want to kill innocent people in New York. We have surveyed the area and knew that many Muslims from our countries work there. We did not want to cause them any harm. And... Peggy: Wait a minute, please. So, if you have previously surveyed  the area, and knew how many Muslims work at the World Trade Center, this tells me that you and  your people knew in advance that the Word Trade Center was THE target...Right?    (Ahmad interrupted me and spoke with anger in Arabic to Abou Hussein. I did not understand what he did say to Abou Hussein and to the others). He paused for a few seconds and said:  Can we talk about something else, please? Ruth: One more thing and we will change the subject. Mahmood: OKKAY!  Ruth: Did you know Attah?    Mahmood: No, I didn’t not. I am telling you the truth. "Waalah Al Azim", meaning in Arabic: I swear by the name of God the majestic.  Ruth: So what was the first choice, I mean the places you targeted to attack in the United States? Mahmood: The plan was to attack Bush first, The White House, do you understand? Secondly, we wanted to attack the American Pentagon. We did not want to kill civilians this time. We wanted to teach Bush a lesson and show him that we can hit him any time, even in his own home. But plans changed the last minutes. The third target was the CIA headquarters. We knew that the Pentagon, and especially, the third left wing was not well guarded. Many of our men visited the mall at the Pentagon many many times and gathered information about the Pentagon. Another target of a great importance was the Capitol where members of the parliament meet.Ruth: I see.  

THE NEXT POSSIBLE ATTACK TARGETS IN THE UNITED STATES.

Peggy: Are you planning on attacking the United States, again?  Abou Hussein: Not me. Mahmood: Not me. But somebody else will.  Ruth: Do you know who is going to be? Somebody else, like who, for instance? Al Qaeda, possibly? Mahmood: No, not Al Qaeda, other people. They have to prove themselves. Peggy: Can't you tell us? You don't have to tell us everything.   Mahmood: It is going to be everywhere. And this time our people will attack and kill everybody, men, women, everybody. No distinction. Ruth: Any particular targets in the United States.  Ahmad: We have a long list of targets. What Bush is going to do? Guard every meter in America? I don't think so. He is busy now with his presidential campaign.  Mahmood: We pick up new targets as we go. Peggy: What do you mean?  Ahmad: We mean that targets change following new developments. Sometimes, the people we want to hit move from here to there and from there to here, like Bush, for example.  Ruth: What do you mean?    Ahmad: I mean, listen, I will give you an example. We planned on attacking Bush in The White House. Few hours before the attack, we knew that Bush left Washington to Florida. We could not attack him in Florida, because we did not have plans to do that. So, The White House attack was no longer important. What do we want from The White House? Stones? No. We wanted Bush.  

THE WHITE HOUSE, THE CIA HEADQUARTERS, THE CAPITOL AND THE PENTAGON WERE THE ORIGINAL AND MAJOR TERRORISTS’ ATTACK TARGETS

Peggy: So what were the major targets? The ones you previously planned to attack? Ahmad: We wanted to attack The White House, the CIA, the Capitol, the Pentagon. At the last minute, The White House was replaced by the World Trade Center in New York. The new instructions came from our people in Germany who were coordinating things. Nothing was decided upon in America. We were watching Bush movements all the time. Ruth: Weren't you afraid the United Air Force could intercept the planes you hijacked and shoot them down? Abou Hussein: Not at all. We knew, it will take the Americans long time to intercept the planes. The Americans are never prepared. They are so arrogant. They think nothing is going to happen to them. Besides, we have already calculated the time needed to attack each target. We knew that The White House was heavily protected on the ground but not in the air. The same thing for the Capitol and the Pentagon. Look, madam, we can attack any place we want in America. It is a big country.  Peggy: Reports show you could not attack The White House for other reasons. Officials in the United States claim that the pilots refuse to fly the planes over The White House. Others claim that fights broke up on the planes and the passengers took control of the planes. Correct?  Ahmad: Not correct at all. I am not going to tell you everything. If this is what you think, you are wrong, so are the Americans. We had another airplane ready to be taken from Washington. Actually, we had two airplanes. The second one was waiting for us in New York. It is more complicated than you think. In total, we had 5 airplanes part of the plan and ready for us.

It was getting very late. We began to feel exhausted from our trip and we had to call it for the night. Our next interview meeting was scheduled for the next day at 10:00 AM at a café on Bliss Street, near the AUB (American University of Beirut). Abou Hussein wanted us to visit his family and have a lunch with his wife and children. And he seemed genuinely sincere. He told us that his wife Aisha is a very good woman and a very good cook. She would like very much to prepare for us delicious Lebanese specialties. "She is an expert cook.  You have to eat from her hands. She makes the best Tabbouli, Hommos and Kibbeh Nayeh (Sort of Steak Tartare: Raw meat blended with Bourghol) in the country. It would be a great honor if you accept our invitation. My home is your home." Said Abou Hussein. We told him, certainly, we will come to his house, once the interview is finished. We could not figure out, how such a warm and generous man, who is a loving father and sincerely well-mannered gentleman could kill innocent people and train youngsters on explosives, manufacturing bombs, cutting throats and blowing up houses. So we had to call it for the night. This time, Mahmoud himself drove us back to our hotel. With extreme courteous mannerism, he opened the door of the car and gently closed it behind us, always smiling and repeating "Ya Ahlan Fikoum", meaning in Arabic:  You are welcome. We arrived to the hotel. Mahmood walked out of the car, went to open the car's door for us, bowed gently and wished us good night. Then he decided, to accompany us (inside the hotel) right to the elevators. Then, he told Peggy that he wishes to introduce us to the concierge of the hotel before we take the elevators. He escorted us to the desk of the concierge and introduced us to him. A young gentleman who spoke fluently French, English and Arabic. Mahmood told him that we were his friends and he should take care of us. Mahmood left and we rushed to our rooms for we were dead tired.  We woke up the next morning at 9:00 AM, started to get ready and soon after, rushed to the first floor to wait for Mahmood in the lobby of the hotel. He arrived exactly at 10:00 AM as he said he would. This time Mahmoud drove the car himself, no bodyguards, no entourage, except for Abou Hussein who was sitting  in the backseat of the car. This time Abou Hussein was wearing a Levi's blue jeans and very expensive "Red Shoe" label pair of shoes. Mahmoud was impeccably dressed and his very strong French fragrance almost suffocated us. He was wearing "Aramis" fragrance. A really bloody strong  fragrance. But we did not mind. We had one thing on our mind, finish the interview and leave Beirut as soon as possible.

The second interview included Q&A about Henry Kissinger, President George Bush, possible forthcoming attacks on selected targets in the United States, Arab-Russian intelligence collaboration, Al Chalabi's affair, the CIA,  important information about Bin Laden, briberies at the United Nations, alleged falsified and fake statements by Vice President Cheney, training camps in the United States, close relationship between Pakistan's Mousharraf and Bin Laden, possible Arab and Muslim spies and informers who infiltrated various intelligence agencies in the United States!!!  New coalition of Sunnis and Shi'a militia forces in Basra, Mousol, Karkouk, Al Fallujah, Baghdad and Al Najaf to kill Americans and kidnap American leading figures involved in the Iraqi occupation, bank accounts opened under the name of members of Tallas family, (Syria's Tallas Minister of Defense)  to facilitate the transfer of an astronomical amount of money to finance terrorism operations worldwide,  as well as alarming news and threats by terrorists!

MORE KIDNAPPINGS AND KILLINGS EN ROUTE!!

Peggy: Are you going to continue to kidnap Americans and behead them? Ahmad: This is just the beginning. Now, our brothers are kidnapping "simple and ordinary" Americans. Soon, we will begin to kidnap and kill really important American businessmen and politicians. We will get every American in Saudi Arabia and Iraq.  Abou Hussein: And soon, we will destroy all the weapons and airplanes factories in America.   Ruth: You will keep on killing innocent Americans in Saudi Arabia and Iraq?   Ahmad: Of course, every single American. We don't want foreigners and westerners in our countries. And don't think that the Saudis are on your side. And we will kill every Arab and every Muslim who does business with Americans.   Ruth: Are you planning on kidnapping and killing innocent Americans working in other Arab or Muslim countries, as well? Ahmad: Everywhere! We will kill them wherever they are, if they are living or working in a Muslim country. We will search for them in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Algeria, Indonesia, Malaysia, Iraq, everywhere. Something else, don't think Al Qaeda is the only group who is fighting the Americans. New groups are created every day and everywhere. America cannot stop us. Bush is the worst president in the whole world. Soon or later, we will get him, if not now, next year, and if not next year, two years from now, we will kill him even if it will take us 10 years! He is already dead! Wait and see. Abou Hussein: We have the list of all American employees who are working in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. We will get them one by one. We know where they work, where they live, we know everything about them. Peggy (talking to Abou Hussein): Are you a Sunni or a Shiaa?  Abou Hussein: I am a Muslim.  Ahmad: "The Americans will kill Saddam first. Our sources tell us that Bush and the CIA will assassinate him. Abou Hussein: "Bush has no principles. Before, he wanted to kill Sader. Now, he promised him a post in the Iraq new cabinet if he stops the fight."   Ahmad: Look, madam, if the Saudis will try to hurt us or stop us, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, boom, will disappear from the face of the earth. We have very strong people and friends in the Saudi government and in the royal family. Try to understand once for good, the whole Arab world and every Muslim in the world is against America because Bush destroyed Iraq.   Ruth: Do you think Iraq was a democratic country  under Saddam Hussein regime.  Ahmad: No body is saying that. Try to understand. Bush made a big mistake. The Americans came to Iraq and took Saddam. This is not my problem. Actually, I never liked Saddam. He had many enemies in the Middle East. Moubarak hated him. Al Assad hated him, Moamar Khazafi hated him. The Saudis hated him. Everybody hated him. But Bush the son of a dog, should have stopped bombing Iraq and killing the Iraqi people when the Americans captured Saddam. Okkay, the Americans won the war, Okkay, why didn't they leave Iraq after they captured Saddam? That was their big mistake.  Ruth: Do you want Saddam back? Ahmad: No, we don't want him back. You can keep him. I care less about Saddam. We don't want him to come back to Iraq and to become a  president again. This will never happen, because the Americans will kill him first. Our sources tell us that Bush and the CIA will assassinate him. Ruth: How do you know this?  Ahmad: The same people who work for the CIA and Bush work for us too. Many of our people are on the CIA payroll.    

THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE KNEW ABOUT THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!

MANY ARAB LEADERS AND HEADS OF STATE ARE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE UNITED STATES.

Peggy: You must be joking? Ahmad: I am not joking. I know what I am telling you.  Do you think a Muslim will betray a Muslim? Never. Look at Al Chalabi, he was on the payroll of the CIA. He was a friend to the Iranians too. Husni Moubarak gets 1 billion Dollars every year from the Americans. King Abdallah, the same story. Everybody is on the payroll of the CIA. It does not mean that they are friends with the CIA. They are using the CIA. The CIA is stupid. They are donkeys. They tell lies to the CIA. And the CIA believes them.  Ruth: And how about the Arab leaders who are denouncing terrorism? Do you think that they are on the CIA payroll too? Ahmad: I just explained to you. They are laughing at the CIA.   Ruth: It was my understanding that Muslims were not totally united. The Shiaa suffered a lot under the regime of Saddam Hussein.   Abou Hussein: I know, but when it comes to Muslims fighting against America and Israel, we are all united in our Jihad against the Jews and the Americans. You see, you don't know much about us.  Peggy: Are you getting any help from the Russians?  Ahmad: We did in the past but now we don't trust the Russians anymore. They betrayed us. Abou Hussein: They reported us to the Americans. They gave them information about what we did in New York.  Peggy: Hold a second, please. Are you telling us that the Russians knew about the World Trade Center attack? Ahmad: Of course. Peggy: How did they know?   Mahmood: From their spies in Istanbul. And I think the CIA dogs knew too but did not know all the details. They knew it is going to be New York but they did not know what to do. The stupid CIA caught innocent Muslims in America and tortured them. They arrested and jailed good Muslim people in America who had nothing to do with anything. Ruth: So, you are operating under the nose of the Saudis! Abou Hussein: Why do you say under the nose of the Saudis? The Saudis know what we are doing. Do  you think, the Saudis like the Americans? "Miskin Aklik", meaning in Arabic: I have a poor mind or a stupid mind. The Saudis are financing our operations. They are good Muslims. Don't listen to what this or that Saudi Prince or Saudi ambassador says in public or tells the media Peggy: Mr. Mahmood, I have one or two questions left for you. What do you think of the CIA today? Mahmood: "Yahni" (Meaning: I mean), the CIA today is nothing, very weak. The CIA was strong in the Middle East some 25 years ago. Around 1975, the CIA was finished in Lebanon, in Syria, in Iraq and in many Arab countries. Before 1975, they were probably everywhere. But after 1975, the CIA became "nothing". But, but, I know they are still in Egypt, Cyprus, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Many of them are now in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, a sizable number in Pakistan, India and Afghanistan. Actually, we know who they are and what they are doing. And we know what we should do with them.  Peggy: What do you mean? Mahmood: I mean, we know how to get them "like birds".  Peggy: What do you mean like birds?   Mahmood: I mean it is easy to shoot them like we shoot small birds.  Ruth: I have the last question for you Mr. Mahmood. Are you going to keep on terrorizing and killing innocent Americans in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Mahmood: Madam, please, do not insult my intelligence. You know very well they are not innocent. Tell me why they are here? I will tell you. They are here to spy on us, to kill us, to take our country from us. They are not here to work. The whole world goes to America to work. They don't need to come to Iraq or Saudi Arabia to find jobs. There are plenty of jobs in America. So, they are not innocent at all. Yes, madam, we will continue to kidnap Americans until they leave our lands. And now we are going to do something bigger. We are going to start to hit big American companies in Saudi Arabia, like Coca Cola, McDonald, IBM, Microsoft, American Standard, Pfizer... Please tell your American friends to leave our countries.

We had to stop here and wrap up the article. Mahmood invited us to have a diner with his friends. He said: "And now, madam Peggy, madam Ruth, we are going to take you to a very nice place in "Bhamdoun".  A very very nice place in the mountain. We will have "Meza", meaning in Arabic: A feast or a small banquet   consisting of  50 or 60 different kinds of Lebanese and Arab specialties and smoke "Argileh", meaning in Arabic: Narghile, the  water pipe smoking tobacco. We had to explain to him that we had to finish the article and send it to the magazine, if he wanted to see it in print. We apologized to him and thanked him for his hospitality and cooperation. And that was the first and last time we saw Mahmood, Ahmad and Abou Hussein. Before leaving, Mahmoud and friends gave us  few presents: Two boxes of "Melabbas" (Almond candies) and two boxes of "Baklawa" and one "Masbaha" (A fancy  jaded rosary). It was quite a learning experience. A memorable encounter we will never forget.

SOME STATISTICS:  Fundamentalist Muslim and Terrorists Organizations

According to Mahmood, there are more than 15 Muslim-Non Arab and  50 Muslim Arab independent, organizations, sub-organizations, affiliate fronts and groups solely founded to fight the United States,  Israel, US allies and Jews worldwide. They are operating in Indonesia, Malaysia, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Spain, USA, Ethiopia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, etc. The most notorious ones are:

1.Al Qaeda

2.The Islamic Army   

3.The World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders

4.The Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Places

5.Islamic Salvation Foundation

6.The Group for the Preservation of the Holy Sites     

7.Abu Nidal Organization 

8.Al Tawheed Organization 

9.Al Ikhwan Al Muslimin 

10.Ansar Al Arab

11.Abou Sayyaf Group    

12.Armed Islamic Group       

13.Harakat Al Moujahiddin     

14.Hizballah or Hizboul’ Lah

16.Palestine Liberation Front- Abou Abbas Group   

17.Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine    

18.Ramzi Youssef Group

19.Al Mourabitoun      

20.Nabih Birry Group    

21.Al Sader Front, also called Shabab Al Sader and Shabab Al Nasr  

22.Hamas

23.Imad Al Alami Group     

24.Al Intifadah     

25.Muslim Jurists on Jihad    

26.Yahya Ayash Group    

27.Al Zarkawi Group  

28.George Habash Organization 

29.Arabian Peninsula Al Jihad  

30.Al Sahikaa (Affiliated with the Syrian army) 

31.Fallujah Brigade    

32.Harakat Al Nasr 

33.Al Moukawama Al Sha'biya (Affiliated with Hizboul’lah. Operating from the Muslim district of Beirut)   

34.Harakat Al Tahrir   

35.Joubhat Al Tahrir

36.Al Imam Ali Front. Originated in South Lebanon in Saida and Sour and financed by Iran and Iraq.   

37.Indonesian Al Jihad Group. Originated in Jakarta. Financed by Bin Laden and wealthy members of the Saudi Royal families

38.Kuala Lumpur Jihad Group. Financed by wealthy Muslim businessmen from Malaysia and Indonesia with a direct link to Bin Laden et al                                                                                                        

39.A small group of extremely fanatic Muslims called Jaysh Al Tahrir; remnants of the Al Jaysh Al Arabi which was created in 1974-1975 in Beirut. The Jaysh Al Arabi also known as Jaysh Loubnan Al Arabi (Arab Army of Lebanon or Army of Lebanon The Arab) was placed under the control of a Muslim Lebanese brigadier general named Abdel Aziz, who  previously served in the regular Lebanese army. Apparently  this man  wrote several Arabic encyclopedias and was highly decorated by various Arab countries.  He made several trips to the emirates of the United Arab Emirates along with Ghaleb Fahs, a Shiist (Shia’a) figure and a former Director General of the Ministry of Youth and Sport of Lebanon, himself a former colonel in the regular Lebanese army. He was also a close friend to general Ali Ali Amer from Egypt who served as the commander-in-chief of the United Arab Forces of the "Arab League" based in Cairo.   

40.The most recent and bloodiest terrorist organization is Al Maghrabi Group which mushroomed in Algeria and is currently extremely active in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia. This group managed to recruit thousands of fanatic Muslims and particularly  Saudi nationals from Riyadh, Al Khobar and Al Tai'f areas.   

41.The Voice of Jihad, operating in Saudi Arabia  

42.Michel Aflack  Group remnants. This group is financed by Syria. It played major destructive role in the civil war of Lebanon, For a while, it vanished from circulation, later it  resurfaced in Algeria, Pakistan and Afghanistan.  

43.Jabhat Al Falujah (Front of Squadron of Al Falujah) recently created in Iraq but originated in Saudi Arabia three weeks ago.      

44.Al Islah: An extremely dangerous organization created in May 2004 and operating in Malaysia, United Kingdom, Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia. Their specialty is to capture and kill westerners working in Saudi Arabia. They are well-connected to the official authorities and police of the Saudi Kingdom.  

45.Abdel Aziz Al Mukrin Front. Originally established in Somalia. This is an extremely dangerous terrorist organization specializing in bomb making with close ties to Al Qaeda and the followers of Sheik Mohammad. They are currently operating in Saudi Arabia.  

46.Al Madri Group, an extremely effective terrorist organization established in 1982 in Lebanon and Afghanistan by Al Madri himself and active fighters from Hizbul’ lah in Southern Lebanon. This group was responsible for the killings of several CIA agents, including operations officer, Mr. Higgins. The United States have been trying to locate this group for the past twenty years without any apparent success. Recently, this group moved to Saudi Arabia and to the eastern and western regions of Afghanistan. Some observers claim that Al Madri group met with Pakistan's Mousharaff military intelligence on more than one  occasion.

 

Intifada toll 2000-2005

The four years of the Palestinian intifada have cost more than 4,000 lives. B'tselem, an Israeli human rights group, has been tracking casualty figures on both sides. Most of the statistics cover the period from 29 September 2000 to 15 January 2005.     PALESTINIANS KILLED BY ISRAELIS* 3,135 killed by security forces in the West Bank and Gaza including 627 aged under 18, 181 killed in extrajudicial executions and 288 (including at least 29 aged under 18) killed in the course of these assassinations.       54 killed by security forces in Israel including one aged under 18 34 killed by Israeli citizens in the West Bank and Gaza including three aged under 18 *There are no figures to show the proportion of Palestinians who were combatants and those who were civilians. ISRAELIS KILLED BY PALESTINIANS 431 civilians killed in Israel including 78 aged under 18             218 civilians killed in the West Bank and Gaza Strip including 34 aged under 18 218 Israeli security forces killed in West Bank and Gaza 83 Israeli security forces killed in Israel PALESTINIANS KILLED BY PALESTINIANS 101 killed by Palestinian civilians on suspicion of collaborating 29 killed by members of the Palestinian security forces (for September 2000 to September 2004) 3 Palestinians killed by gunfire from Palestinians shooting at Israeli civilians (for September 2000 to September 2004) 2 Palestinian security forces killed by Palestinians attacking Israeli soldiers (for September 2000 to September 2004)   FOREIGN CITIZENS Foreign citizens killed   33 foreign citizens (including two aged under 18) were killed by Palestinians in Israel 10 foreign citizens were killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza 9 foreign citizens were killed by Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza